Thanks for the link, GE.  +1 karma.

They have a reasonable description of Stardock, free from the extremes of the fanboy club and haters here. 

Although "average" might be a tad bit lower than I'd put Stardock, it's very close to my own experience as well.

No real complaints as of yet that can't be worked through.

My complaints? Or Reclaim Your Game's?

i can't believe how many people whine over drm. seriously.

O WAAA WE ARE TREATED LIKE CRIMINALS! well that's because 80% of those playing are(1:5 gamer to pirate ratio in demigod earlier)

And don't think you are sticking it to them man or some revolutionary because you don't buy a game because it has drm; that's just dumb. Plenty of drm types work fine, people are jsut too dumb to use them right.

MAN I USED MY 5 INSTALLS AND NOW I CAN'T PLAY. Well why do you need 5, and just deactivate some...

Yet another troll rant. Nothing new here. Ranting about DRM simply labels you as a pirate or pirate sympathizer to others. Reputation takes years to make, seconds to break. And yours was no different.

Stardock is developping GOO for others publishers, not for its products. How are others publishers supposed to react if their only choices are between no DRM and nasty DRM?

BTW, stating that Stardock published games are DRM free is false since a serial id needs to be linked with an unique e-mail. They just have no copy protection on retail games.

brad has stated several time that they have been using goo-style protection on their own products for sometime. the goo system is for the other publishers who want to use it.

kinda sad that you only b*tch about the DRM now that it has a name. bet you never really noticed it before?

I thought serial numbers were for getting updates. Guess I was wrong.

Ok, seriously, someone explain this to me. Except for Elemental that will be used as a "show" for the other companies (and it won't use the "DRM" part but the one that allows you to sell your license if my memory doesn't betray me), Stardock isn't going to use GOO (except, maybe, again for that part of reselling the game's license). Or maybe my memory is wrong or I don't correctly remember what has been said in these forums not so long ago. Maybe Stardock should annoy people using the DRM that Frogboy once suggested as a joke:

"It's using a combination of SecuROM and Starforce so that the game will require a CD in the drive, a USB key to be inserted and the reading of a particular word on a particular page of the user manual (which won't be hard since it'll only have a 2 page manual naturally).

The docs, which we expect to be written by fans, will be online only which will be fine since the game will require players to be on-line at all times due to the by-the-hour activation checks the game makes to the single player mode.

Also, the game won't work if you have any CD-ROM burning software including the built in media player software (users will naturally need to uninstall any media players including iTunes in order to play)."

No, you were right. But for getting updates, the serial must be registred. And it can be registred with only one e-mail. You can copy, install the retail game as you want. There is no obligation to register the game when installing it from a retail DVD.

BTW, registering the serial id not only give you the ability to get updates. But alos to download the whole game for your lifetime. You can even lost your install CD and serial id after having registered it in Stardock servers. But this also means that you can't sell the game since there isn't yet (but that will be possible with the coming Impulse marketplace) any possibility to unregister you serial id.

Spoken like someone who has never been bitten by DRM. I was burned on it by BioShock. What did I do wrong? Hmmm, upgraded RAM and added a hard drive to my system. Not a new drive that required a reinstall of the OS, just a second drive for more storage. Result: locked out of my game.

So tell how I was too dumb to 'use it right'.

Well, yeah, that would be good... oh wait. Not all of them have revoke tools. None for BioShock when I was locked out (that came much later). None for Mass Effect PC until just recently. None for Chronicles of Riddick:Assault on Dark Athena (and none forthcoming, since Tages does not provide - and never will -  a revoke tool). None for Spore when it was first launched.

But go ahead and support publishers that use these intrusive and asinine DRM schemes. Maybe you'll never run into a problem with it. More power to you if that's the case. But if you do run into troubles like many of us have, perhaps you'll get some perspective on it.

WIlly: labelling someone as a pirate or pirate sympathiser because they're against DRM? That's pretty narrow-minded. I don't pirate, I pay for my software, but I'm completely against these DRM schemes such as appeared on BioShock, Spore, et al. You probably don't believe me, but I don't care. I have less than zero sympathy for pirates, since they're the reason I have to put up with seeing games I'd like to play be saddled with this bloody DRM* in the first place.

*Note: I'm not referring to GOO here. I'm reserving judgment on it until I see it in action.

Bullshit.  He has an opinion and has a right to speak it.  Just because his opinion is different than yours, you label him a troll.  It must be an awesome responsibility to be the only one whos opinion counts.

You're a coward and the true troll.  Your post's only purpose is to garner what you think will be support from the fanboys here.  Just spout out the shill crap you've been fed.  You can't even come up with your own ideas, can you?  That's a good sheep.

because i made a posted telling all of you pirates you are dumb you think i can't come up with my own ideas? i think demigod should have a giant invisible panda demigod that uses a bamboo stick to hurt people and eats it for health. i just thought that up by myself. i made a conscious decision to try and come up with my own idea and i did it!! i just tried to and was victorious in coming up with my own idea. i came up with my very own idea! well that proves your comment wrong

and how is your post different than mine? Your post's only purpose is to garner what you think will be support from the pirates here

LOL AT HYPOCRITE WHO CANT USE DRM

drm's work fine, very few have problems, especially now. so don't go complain that they DIDN'T have a revoke tool, they DO now.

LOLOL AT GAME PIRATERS

Considering the actual pirates that crack and post the games don't bother with DRM free games, the idea that someone is a pirate or pirate sympathizer for being against DRM is... stupid?  As far as I can tell, they enjoy the challenge and race each other to crack the new game first.  If there isn't anything to crack, and there isn't on any of them yet, what's the point?

No, I said that because you're a coward and the true troll.

You spout bullshit that you have no first clue about in the hopes that you'll gain a following.  Not gonna happen, troll.

And you know the most ironic thing? Those actual pirates have to actually buy the game before they can crack it